OMFG Exposed
"This isn't even a roast, it's literally true"
— Reddit, 2016
If you're reading this, it's probably because you have some questions about the authenticity of OMFG's claims and her music.
What this is
This website will show you, the dear reader, evidence that would suggest that Alex Savage (real name: Kylee Boettcher) is not the true producer of OMFG's music.
What this is not
This website does not exist to criticise Kylee. We mainly just dislike Loell, or as he likes us to call him "Alex Savage", because as I'm sure you're aware, "Savage" is a legitimate family name in Canada.
In addition, we want to be clear that this has nothing to do with sexism or the belief that women are not capable of creating music. We are fully aware that there are some excellent female producers.
This is wholly to do with OMFG's claims and the evidence that would imply that the music was produced by Loell Bergen.
A song
Here's a song: Chocolate Chip Pancakes by ElectroPhant
, one of the names Loell Bergen
goes under.
There's also another lovely song, known by some as the 'original' Hello: Benefits - Loell Bergen. Unfortunately Loell DMCAd himself to remove it.
Right, so who is this fellow and why should I care?
Loell Bergen, or
One Inch Bergen
as he's better known, is an EDM producer
who we're told by TheDirty.com is best known for hitting on women twice (or sometimes half) his age.
Whilst you've probably never heard of him, you've probably heard of OMFG, or Alex Savage, and as you can probably tell by this point, this website is going to focus on the evidence linking these two individuals.
Client Testimonial
my gosh , this twat tryed getting with me while i had a boyfriend, he basically stalked me, he's the biggest creep ever i'm only 15 , he would try to get me on webcam, & i kept tellign him to fck off, & when it finily got through to his stupid head that i wasn't gonna get with him, he started calling me fat, fcking creeeeep ! - a victim
Loell is also known for such antics as posing with other people's cars
and sending incredibly mature emails
to curious fans.
You'll also be delighted to know he's an active Twitter user.
Domain Whois
Above is the whois information for the domain name, AlexOMFG.com, the official website of OMFG. What's suspect is that the registrant changed right around the time that people started growing suspicious. Nope, she's no longer Lionel. She's now Kylee.
Lionel Bergen, for those who don't know, is Loell's brother.
The whois also lists a phone number, with an area code in Winnipeg, Canada.
Skype Account
So of course, by this point you're probably wondering what on earth is going on. So were we. So we added OMFG on Skype, hoping to clear things up. Maybe it was all just a huge misunderstanding.
But we noticed something:
The last IPs connected to the AlexSavageOMFG Skype account were:
| IP | Location | ISP | Last Seen |
|---|---|---|---|
| 184.60.49.148 | Minnesota, US | TDS Telecom | Unknown |
| 50.71.224.212 | Winnipeg, CA | Shaw Communications | 2015/09/19 |
| 75.100.29.104 | Minnesota, US | TDS Telecom | 2015/09/19 |
| 50.72.122.243 | Winnipeg, CA | Shaw Communications | 2016/04/03 |
This raises an immediate question:
Why is Kylee / Alex Savage (OMFG), based in Minnesota
(her Facebook confirms this), connecting from Canada? Hmm, let's go add Loell and see where he's connecting from.
The last IPs connected to the Phantbass (Loell Bergen's) Skype account were:
| IP | Location | ISP | Last Seen |
|---|---|---|---|
| 50.72.104.93 | Winnipeg, CA | Shaw Communications | Unknown |
| 184.151.178.122 | Canada | Bell Mobility | Unknown |
First of all, there's an IP from Winnipeg, the same city in Canada. Notice how the first IP is very similar to the one that has connected to AlexOMFG's account before. It seems very likely that Loell uses the OMFG account to deal with anyone asking any questions that OMFG may be unable to answer.
Also notice the second IP - Bell Mobility. At the time of writing there's a phone number on the whois for AlexOMFG.com which belongs to Telus in Canada. Telus being a Bell partner and as such they share 3G networks.
A few brief text based talks with AlexOMFG on Skype definitely imply that they share Skype accounts - the style of writing changed dramatically as did the knowledge of music production.
But, we're not done yet. Here's the IPs connecting to 'dustytrash', Loell Bergen's other Skype account
| IP | Location | ISP | Last Seen |
|---|---|---|---|
| 50.72.104.93 | Winnipeg, CA | Shaw Communications | Unknown |
| 50.71.224.212 | Winnipeg, CA | Shaw Communications | 2015/09/19 |
Notice how the IP, 50.71.224.212
has connected to both Loell Bergen and OMFG's Skype accounts, proving, at the very least, that they share access to the account.
Also, notice how the IP 50.72.104.93
has connected to both the 'dustytrash' and 'phantbass' skype accounts.
OMFG's Proof
This doesn't prove anything
First of all, Loell Bergen is
OMFG. He's the one making the music and he's the one running the channel. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that yes, he did make the music.
Secondly, skip to the later parts of the video with the talkbox. Notice how the voice is quite clearly male.
If OMFG really was who they said they were (i.e. Kylee) they could've easily posted a video explaining things. Instead Loell gave us this and no further explanation, and posted a patronising description implying that the drama was the reason he couldn't create new, high quality content.
The Reaction
After it was pointed out that the talkbox voices were identical between Loell's work and OMFG's work and clearly not Kylee's, Loell responded by taking down the videos. Clearly he panicked, because his next song had a sample of Kylee's voice pasted on shortly after:
This song was supposed to be released last Friday but got inexplicably delayed around the time of the Q&A video. Since it's been removed from YouTube, here it is in all its glory.
Loell has since resorted to banning people from commenting on his videos.
The Email
Someone chose to email Loell directly:
Clearly the most professional responses we've ever seen. Nope, not like he'd ever lie
or anything.
The takedown
Back in February, OMFG for whatever reason decided to file a takedown against SuicideSheep, claiming that since "she" (Kylee) was underage, their contract was never valid.
This happened despite SuicideSheep offering OMFG a record deal and actively paying royalties. You can read SuicideSheep's statement here.
Eventually the music returned to SuicideSheep's channel, but with an interesting footnote:
Clearly he knows.
This line has since been removed from the description (possibly at the request of lawyers) but one has to wonder if this was a subtle jab from Mr. SuicideSheep.
More Music
In case you needed some more evidence, have some more Loell Bergen music:
Notice the similarity in talkbox voices.
The Reveal
Finally, we found out the truth. We were right:
A Twitch stream followed, where Loell admitted that:
- He spent over a year finding a girl to 'front' his music
- He paid Kylee around 1/3rd of the income he made from the music
- Kylee no longer wanted to be involved, after he demanded she upload at least one new photo per day
- He really, really wants you to just call him Alex instead.
The Stream
So, here it is in all its glory, the stream:
Why would Loell do this?
This is purely speculative. As you'll notice, the music released by ElectroPhant
rarely has more than 10,000 views. The OMFG music on the other hand has millions of views.
What likely happened was Mr. Bergen, struggling to get his EDM career off the ground, turned to a young, attractive girl he met online who liked the sound of the attention to be the face of his music. In doing so, his music became substantially more popular.
In more recent times, Loell has turned to fighting his new cause of ensuring that everyone knows that his name is definitely Alex Savage, and not Loell Bergen.
New Comment
356 Comments
Larry Emerson
about 2 hours ago
Guys, I'm tired of all this fucking bullshit. I'm almost ready to take legal action against your asses. You have all this shit on here that is my personal property and you are causing slander to myself. You all are legitimate jackasses who have no sense of privacy, going through all my photos and accounts. And for the record, I never posted that horrid sentence on my twitter; a friend of mine got into my twitter via my computer being on and he thought it would be funny to put it. You dickheads also have the nerve to post private messages from me and that fag M95. That loser Skii dude knows my Facebook and PSN account, creepy much? And the legit reason I'm not responding to your messages is well, they're all completely retarded and stupid. Why the fuck would I respond or read that? If you idiots keep this up, I have no problem taking actions into my own hands. You guys should watch yourselves. Lastly, never will I EVER be a pedophile, so quit saying that you degenerates.
P.S. I'm not that fag Skii's friend. I'm the real deal, Steve.
P.S. I'm not that fag Skii's friend. I'm the real deal, Steve.
nothingtodowithdatshit
about 2 hours ago
didn't this site used to have an omfg plagarism section where you showed the song that loell ripped the melody from?
why was that part removed, that song was online way before omfg was a thing.
why was that part removed, that song was online way before omfg was a thing.
Skii
nothingtodowithdatshit - about 2 hours ago
Most likely the cause was Loell saw it and took legal action against it, or removed it from the channel it was uploaded from.
Steve Willeso
Skii - about 2 hours ago
Loell has never contacted us and no legal action has ever been threatened. The creator of that song on the other hand, well that's a question only he could answer unfortunately.
Steve Willeso
nothingtodowithdatshit - about 2 hours ago
That was a long time ago now!
If memory serves, it was because there was some question surrounding the dates when it was uploaded and the original creator of the song not wanting anything to do with OMFG.exposed.
Night
about 3 hours ago
So, there's this channel by the name of "Luna Kleiber" who's trying to copy the entire Loell/Kylee thing. First of all, they've changed the profile picture various times to images of girls (which is clearly not Luna as one of the pictures were Marina Joyce but when someone pointed it out, they changed it). Second of all, the channel description says "Hello. My name is Luna Kleiber from Usa. I produce music as a hobby. Enjoy it." but, it used to say Netherlands instead of USA. It seems like they're just trying to get attention like Loell did or it could just be a complete joke to make fun of Loell. Eitherway, all we know is that they're trying to copy the situation with Kylee and whatnot.
DJ Blueflame
about 6 hours ago
i feel like omfg does have some talent but instead of making something different loell the lazy shit decides to make it in the same style im not saying that having a style is bad but im saying that hes is meh at best
Steve Willeso
DJ Blueflame - about 5 hours ago
Having seen his previous music, I have to suspect that 'Hello' was almost "accidentally good".
After releasing that, I suspect rather than doing something risky, like making something original, he just made more of the same hoping for continued success. Having seen his view counts however, I'm guessing that hasn't really worked.
admin approved
admin approved
Steve Willeso
Gabbonet - 3 days ago
El español es una lengua maravillosa. ¿De donde eres? Saludos de Costa Rica!
Alexy
6 days ago
I have sent him couple of really long emails asking things about electrophant,omfg and all his other aka's..but no, he is not answering.. I dont want to say anything about those really serious things like being a pedophile and stuff because there is not real evidence about things like that, But i want him to explain us why he gave up with Electrophant / PhantBass and Why did he remove stream from his twitch channel,removed his old videos on FedUp and other channels, and lying about his name. I dont understand why he thinks he can escape and hide all these things because he cant!
Dan Johnson
7 days ago
Okay! So I'm going to get all the images of Loell that I can so they can be put on here. If ANYONE has any pictures please email them to:
JamesPrince2017@gmail.com
and I'll include them!
Skii
7 days ago
Alright guys, I've been pushed to the fucking limit. Loell is an asshole, a jerk, a liar and a pedophile and it's time we expose him, in the strongest way. I am furious about his decisions and the asshole would like to do some digging and actually show the fucker that his name is Loell, not damn Alex. It's legitimately stupid for him to fake his name cause of his past remarks. When you really think about it, its totally stupid because he is pulling in thousands of dollars a year and is notably famous, yet he desperately wants people to stop using his real name. This guy is a dumbass, no question about it, but I want to get going; I want as many people as possible to email him, letting him know we're done with his bullshit cause well, we are! I also want to get a reaction out of him, and hopefully get him to admit the truth. But for me mainly, I want to know why he gave up PhantBass, I thought it had a lot of potential. So what do you guys say? Whose is with me? We are done with his asinine shit and it's time for some answers. Get him good.
Dan Johnson
9 days ago
Does anyone have like a "portfolio" so to speak of all the pictures of Loell? From the original FedUpVideo picture to the one he posted as "Alex" on Facebook the other day? If not is anyone interested in making one for reference and to more easily see the timeline. Or people can send me all the ones they have and I can do it?
Skii
Dan Johnson - 8 days ago
I can upload a few to Imgur for you. You can also easily Google "Loell Bergen" on images to find a few of him. Strangely, I found the profile image of his old Google Plus. I wish I would have saved it, as now I cannot find it.
Dan Johnson
Skii - 7 days ago
Would be much appreciated!! I'll try and maybe put together one with all the ones I can find.
Dan Johnson
Steve Willeso - 7 days ago
I know that I'm noob but would you need a link to every picture or just my Imgur profile? I'm new to all this I know XD
Skii
Steve Willeso - 7 days ago
Found this super attractive photo of him, I'd upload it to state his stupidity.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=396413190499606&set=a.303779889762937.1073741826.100003927854976&type=3&theater
Skii
Skii - 5 days ago
Nevermind, for as I have found it.
http://imgur.com/fpGpRxR
This is actually him, search "Loell Bergen" on Google and this may come up.
http://imgur.com/fpGpRxR
This is actually him, search "Loell Bergen" on Google and this may come up.
cis scum
Skii - 3 days ago
https://www.facebook.com/loell.bergen
this account has some images of loell
this account has some images of loell
Dan Johnson
Dan Johnson - 7 days ago
I'll do it then! I'll give people a couple days to submit images to me and I'll collect them all.
cis scum
Dan Johnson - 3 days ago
this account has a few images
https://www.facebook.com/loell.bergen
https://www.facebook.com/loell.bergen
Adryd
11 days ago
If anyone wants a zip with
Bennifits, Smiley, Good morning, Hurts, Chocolate chip pancakes and some other things reply i'll get something ready
Bennifits, Smiley, Good morning, Hurts, Chocolate chip pancakes and some other things reply i'll get something ready
Alex the Phant
11 days ago
Hi, my name is Alex Savage. Not Loell. Loell was simply a staging name for myself, I made it up because I liked the term "Lol" so I made a name of it for myself cause I felt comedic. Stop with this shit. I gave Kylee the nickname Alex because she didn't want her real name used and I took Loell as a name for myself, so why would I give her my name I used previously? Stop with this exposing shit.
Skii
14 days ago
Someone please give me Loell's email. I want to ask him about this "Larry Emerson" character.
etatoby
17 days ago
This guy is a mess of a person—just watch his twitch if you can stomach it. He lied and keeps on lying to everybody. He looks like he crawled out of the worst parts of 4chan.
But there's one good thing I'm pretty sure will come out of it. A lot of girls currently think that a girl was behind OMFG and so they will try to make electronic music themselves, if they are so inclined. If many try, some will certainly succeed. Sure, it takes a fairly advanced position on the autism spectrum to pour decades into computer music programs to the point of becoming proficient with them. And sure, males are statistically more autistic. But I don't think there's any particular reasons girls shouldn't give it a try or couldn't succeed, if they have a passion for this kind of music.
OMFG was a lie, but it's inspiring a generation of geeky girls. Just wait and see.
admin approved
M95
23 days ago
An attempt at contacting Mr. Bergen:
http://imgur.com/a/aqP7f
Let's just say he's hiding something, undergoing something because of his reveal or he's just given up. I have no idea.
M95
M95 - 23 days ago
I'd also like to add that he claims that he took Benefits and the Hey Kerri remix down because of course it was his music, and this was coming from an email with the name Larry Emerson in it. His facebook
https://www.facebook.com/crustyharry
is the same name, which has a picture of him that is also shown on this site. Compare that picture to him from the stream, it should be obvious that he's Loell and he isn't fooling anyone by saying he isn't OMFG. I wouldn't be surprised if he would delete that facebook account for the sake of denying who he is. Here's a pic to show what I'm saying: http://i.imgur.com/PEK5I6U.png
cam
25 days ago
Yo admin, add these screenshots of loell, this shows he is an extremely fucked up person :)
http://imgur.com/a/W49OV
http://imgur.com/a/W49OV
DJ Blueflame
cam - 22 days ago
i hope his fame dies down because this asswipe definitely doesn't deserve shit at all
Night
26 days ago
And once again, the channel strikes again. This time they've re-uploaded M95's version of Everybody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BhAZce3Wg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BhAZce3Wg
DJ Blueflame
26 days ago
but yeah it's probably some person trying to copy omfg and not doing it well
DJ Blueflame
26 days ago
there is a channel called luna kleiber who uses the same talkbox as omfg ik its not relevant but kinda fishy
lmao wot
DJ Blueflame - 26 days ago
lol you clearly dont know what a talkbox is. what luna kleiber is using in a vocal sample from the omfg samplepack uploaded on soundcloud. "luna klieber" is clearly a fake girl account like omfg was, as the girl in the image switched to someone completely different overnight. they are obviously just trying to gain popularity same way omfg did, but there music is unfortunatly no where near good enough to try something like that yet.
DJ Blueflame
lmao wot - 26 days ago
ik what it is im Im saying its pretty fishy that the person is switching pictures
wtf is loell doing?
27 days ago
any ideas why loell removed his channels? if he was gonna remove em because he didnt want people thinking he was omfg he could have done that at the start of omfg when people were just begining to question omfg's authenticity. just doesnt add up. any ideas?
Skii
wtf is loell doing? - 27 days ago
Basically I think that he didn't want people finding out about his identity. In the stream, he told everyone his name was Alex. But when word went around his name is Loell, they checked out his FedUpVideo channel which had his name mentioned in it. I think he didn't want people knowing who he was, after all he had a girl front the music for him. But good point, I don't know why he didn't remove them. The channels predate about his past of music, deleting them just made it entirely obvious his name is Loell and that those were his songs. What I find strange is that he still has Phantbass up, I thought he would remove that before anything. It was much more popular than FedUpVideo and it even says "My name is Loell Bergen" in the description. BTW, anyone have Loell's Skype?
bilbo-swaggins
Skii - 27 days ago
Loell has several skypes.
Phantbass is one of them, although it isnt active often.
the official OMFG one is fairly active but i dont remember the exact name.
also, on loells old twitter for phantbass he said some racist comments as well as joking about raping babies, so i understand him wanting to sever ties from omfg with his old music.
Phantbass is one of them, although it isnt active often.
the official OMFG one is fairly active but i dont remember the exact name.
also, on loells old twitter for phantbass he said some racist comments as well as joking about raping babies, so i understand him wanting to sever ties from omfg with his old music.
Skii
about 1 month ago
I know this really isn't a thing that helps anyone, but I found it interesting; I found Loell's real Facebook. Here it is:
https://www.facebook.com/crustyharry
it doesn't really have anything to do with music but eh, we could learn something.
Once again, Loell is faking everything.
M95
Skii - about 1 month ago
Well god fuck, It seems like it really was Loell who took down the Hey Kerri re-upload, his email being with that same name.
I'm going to do something, and hopefully get some answers.
Skii
M95 - 28 days ago
I would actually like to have a copy of Hey Kerri. Your upload was really good and was one of Loell's songs I did not hear. My YouTube name is Skimiler btw, you may have noticed me.
Steve Willeso
M95 - 12 days ago
Would people perhaps be interested in an archive of Loell's songs somewhere on the website? I'd need people to provide me with them of course.
Jasonnn
about 1 month ago
can anyone upload tutorials on how to make music like loell? like with all the stuff he uses and upload flps? I would love that im very interested to make music like him
Steve Willeso
Jasonnn - about 1 month ago
Nothing too complicated - all fairly standard FL Studio synths. You could probably figure out all you need to know from that video. I'd argue better DAWs exist than FL but to each their own.
Also use a talkbox. Get good at using said talkbox.
Night
about 1 month ago
Just a heads up to those making videos and songs, the following channel,
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCESw11D2H_SDk0QB6FQdCgQ
Is stealing videos and claiming them as their own.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCESw11D2H_SDk0QB6FQdCgQ
Is stealing videos and claiming them as their own.
EatTheMeatBalz_7
about 1 month ago
ahh, yes but mashed potatoes? no, you got it all wrong, mashed potatoes was a "Frankenstein song" says Loell. If you actually watch the livestream he explains mashed potatoes. the voice was made before kylee was with him so its not kylees voice and he has nothing to do with kylees voice in his songs
Sean
EatTheMeatBalz_7 - about 1 month ago
Loell said many things during the livestream, such as his name not being Loell and really being Alex "Just ask my parents", so things he said should be looked upon critically, with this in mind you have to realise that his past songs used computer generated vocals or a talkbox, Mashed Potatoes didn't, and actually used a female voice clip.
With that plus the fact it was published around the time of the major hype of people spreading the fact OMFG wasn't who they claimed is what leads to the assumption that it's a vocal clip from Kylee.
With that plus the fact it was published around the time of the major hype of people spreading the fact OMFG wasn't who they claimed is what leads to the assumption that it's a vocal clip from Kylee.
However if this assumption genuinely is wrong and was confirmed by Kylee not to be Kylee then that's fine, it's impossible to get everything right when you're working with bits and pieces researched and found over time.
Steve Willeso
EatTheMeatBalz_7 - about 1 month ago
It's definitely Kylee's voice.
The song is a mashup of things he'd made previously - many of which probably were made prior to OMFG being a thing but the voice sample is definitely hers.
Steve Willeso
Skii - about 1 month ago
I guess TheDirty's comments about Loell liking underage girls were right then.
ayy lmao
about 1 month ago
Hey I reuploaded the Q&A with NO watermark. LINK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNEOAUo2DHg
M95
about 1 month ago
If anyone wants, I've re-uploaded the Hey Kerri remix Loell did on FedUpVideo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REHbHm-JBR4
You can most likely download it with a YouTube - MP3 converter.
M95
M95 - about 1 month ago
Well nevermind, it seems Loell is on to me:
http://i.imgur.com/r18ruNH.png
Dustytrshhh
M95 - about 1 month ago
Is there any chance you can reupload this somewhere? I kind of liked it but it's nowhere to be found now :(
M95
Dustytrshhh - 30 days ago
Yeah, here's the original download link bud:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-XTltfFQxmEeWs3NXZwVjAtd1E
ayy lmao
about 1 month ago
I got a new link to benefits. I made the video in OMFG's style. LINK :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwBkWbOboik
Skii
ayy lmao - 27 days ago
The video got taken down :( but I KNEW IT! Loell IS the so called Larry Emerson. What's with him faking his name? I thought he only used that for Facebook. I find it strange how he took down M95'S "Hey Kerri" re-upload under the name Loell, but he took yours down as Larry. Strange.
HelloDarknessMyOldFriend
about 1 month ago
I remember way back when I found Loell's Windows XP song. It was pretty radical (in the non-terroristical way). Shame how he turned out to be a literal cuck, lmao. OMFG - Hello was good in itself to become popular, he didn't need to make the whole girl thing in the first place.
jamesswish419
HelloDarknessMyOldFriend - 25 days ago
Do you still have a copy of the Windows XP song? Link me if you do.
admin approved
Skii
about 2 months ago
I'm not trying to offend anyone and I'm sorry if I do, but does anyone else think Loell is gay?
I noticed in the stream, Loell stated "What if I was the only FEMALE producer" (He could be saying this in Kylee's spot too) and I noticed the way his hair is styled. And finally, I noticed that he has 2 mouth piercings, not to be sexist or stereotypical but I've only seen that on women. I am really questioning if he is.
I noticed in the stream, Loell stated "What if I was the only FEMALE producer" (He could be saying this in Kylee's spot too) and I noticed the way his hair is styled. And finally, I noticed that he has 2 mouth piercings, not to be sexist or stereotypical but I've only seen that on women. I am really questioning if he is.
Menace
about 2 months ago
kyleeboettcherr To answer about any questions towards my affiliation to OMFG; there's been many assumptions and questions about this topic and I've decided to finally stop them. I was hired to by Loell to be the face of OMFG and be nicknamed Alex Savage. It was working out very well and the channel was gaining lots of recognition, but eventually things went down hill. Issues between us started to come up and later on we split up due to a disagreement. I did not make any music by the way. Anyways thank you for all the support
Actual statement from kylee, u can stop with the speculation now.
admin approved
KyleeBoettcher
Menace - about 2 months ago
I have not given any statements about the situation, nor do I plan to for the time being. ^
if I ever DO post about it, it will most likely be on my current social media, most of which are under my name, or glittertenshi .
Skii
KyleeBoettcher - about 1 month ago
I can't believe you actually wouldn't post a selfie a day to Instagram. People actually take time out of their lives to post a selfie a day to Instagram or Facebook. And you're being paid over $100,000 a year for it, these people do it for nothing. Your actions were very wrong Kylee, very wrong.
Steve Willeso
Skii - about 1 month ago
It's up to Kylee to say but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Loell had lied about the amount of money and had massively oversimplified the issue.
The fact that she wasn't willing to do it would imply that perhaps Loell was less than honest about the events.
Sam
about 2 months ago
anyone know what's Alex/Loell is doing ? everybody is ready i think, why he doesn't upload the song ? why he is outside from the social networks ? he is dead ? ahahah
menace
Sam - about 2 months ago
He is far from dead, he is currently working on a New song. Hes active on snapchat and he streams on Twitch.
Sean
menace - about 2 months ago
Not sure I'd consider his Twitch active as his last stream was almost a month ago, and was the only stream he'd done since the reveal stream.
Menace
Sean - about 2 months ago
Yeh, I asked him why he didnt stream every friday like he said he would on snapchat.
Was apperantly some equipment problems and he felt like he needed a script of some sorts. Setup what he is going to do so it doesnt get boring. But hes on snapchat everyday, add him.
Was apperantly some equipment problems and he felt like he needed a script of some sorts. Setup what he is going to do so it doesnt get boring. But hes on snapchat everyday, add him.
Steve Willeso
Menace - about 2 months ago
I'd be surprised if he did anything meaningful at this point honestly. Even if he did another stream I doubt he'd get anywhere near the view count he once did.
Menace
Steve Willeso - 27 days ago
Was anything he did ever meaningful. He just creates tracks for people to listen to, thats not very meaningful in the first place. And streaming aint about the views anyways, you cant expect to be at 1k views all the time when you are streaming. He just got lots the first time since people wanted to know who the grill was.
xcinda
about 2 months ago
If anyone has been looking for the "dream Cycle" song, i found it and uploaded it to my soundcloud.
Here is the URL : https://soundcloud.com/jan-cinybulk/loell-dream-cycle
Here is the URL : https://soundcloud.com/jan-cinybulk/loell-dream-cycle
xcinda
xcinda - about 2 months ago
seems like the link is dead... here is a new one:
https://soundcloud.com/xcinda/loell-dream-cycle
Zak
2 months ago
Anyone got the "TEST SONG - This is just a Vocal test" video/song? Please send it to me ASAP, it was one of my favorites.
Razer
2 months ago
Just found out something pretty unknown about Loell from a friend of mine living in Manitoba, Canada. Apparently, Loell made a myspace page about his music, stating that he "needed a woman to front it". From what I heard, it got shut down for possible pedophilia because some of the girls he asked were underage, and maybe it was reported by them. I was also told he showed benefits to a lady via Skype and she claimed it was "A horrible sound". Maybe we need to cut him some slack, he just wanted someone to be a cover for him, possibly even for his privacy. Although he kind of did it in the wrong way, I believe he still could have gotten someone that way, and he did.
admin approved
AypL
2 months ago
Personally like his style of music but he really is dumb as a rock. If you're going to do a reveal stream you have to 100% commit to it. By not coming completely clean he's just going to lose more fans from his dishonesty. He would have been better off just sticking with the Kylee ruse if his end goal was popularity and money. I highly doubt that many more people would have jumped on the "omfg is a guy" bandwagon as long as he just kept making music with Kylee as the face to his music. He had a great idea with a unique musical sound but he really fucked himself with the hello proof video and then the omfg q and a. Then in the stream you can tell he's just a fucking burger. As soon as I heard him say derp and frickin i knew he was a little slow. What sealed the deal was league of legends and minecraft. I don't think people should care about the guy as long as the musics good just listen but if you want to know how to draw suspicion to yourself this guy is the perfect example. he really could have pulled the Kylee thing to Mars and back, just like he said on stream, even if she quit. There weren't enough ppl or evidence that would fuck him. If anything, all of the drama probably would have gotten him more attention for no cost. By straight up revealing himself he's going to lose a lot of the somewhat fans who followed him cuz grill. He's going to have to make some pretty amazing tunes if he's going to not completely die off cuz he's got nothing but himself now
John B
2 months ago
Hmm...I've just found out that one of Loell's Channels, FedUpVideo, has been deleted.
However, I apparently have his Windows XP song remix, but I don't have his "Benefits" song..
If you want the XP song, go ahead and reply to my comment for it.
M95
John B - 2 months ago
I've got it, I don't have the rest of his songs though...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-XTltfFQxmELWVMVmlaal9oVjg
Derp
2 months ago
I'm not really sure why this site still exists or has much relevance now that the secret's out :P
TheLegend
3 months ago
Can anyone send me Benefits or that vocal test he did with the text to speech? Please upload it to MediaFire or something so I can download it. Thanks.
FreeTracks
TheLegend - about 2 months ago
Go to
www.soundcloud/tracksmadefree
Should be able to find it there and a download. (my souncloud wants followers. lol)
Should be able to find it there and a download. (my souncloud wants followers. lol)
Datbrohoe
3 months ago
If anyone is following AlexSavageOmfg on snapchat, as of july 1st to july 2nd, Alex is nowhere to been seen in her usual snapchat stories. Instead, it has been taken over by some dude (by the look of his silver high-top shoes and skinny jeans, I compared it to the pictures of Loell given above and assume it is him. I could be wrong). Today (July 2nd) her snapchat shows a dude celibrating Canada day with firewords. Canada... where did we see that before? Idk if Alex gave her snapchat to her buddy to record "her" showing a new song in the making (this happened a few days ago) and the dude forgot that he is still on her snapchat, or if they both simply decided to go public that they are working together. I dont know, but one thing is certain, and that is that Alex does not make her music (at least by herself).
Sean
Datbrohoe - 3 months ago
If you refer to the 'Reveal' section above the comments you'll get all that explained to you, but to summarise it this website was correct in saying Kylee was only the front figure for the music and that Loell was the real artist behind the music, and now he's fired her from her position due to a falling out over how many selfies she needs to upload.
Razer
Datbrohoe - 3 months ago
She gave it up and made a personal one. What I learned from her (or now his) Snapchat story was that she gave up her account when she was ending high school. Not sure if this is implying something or just a simple coincidence.
Steve Willeso
Razer - 3 months ago
As I understand it, Loell wanted her to increase her output upon finishing high school, something she wasn't willing to do.
TheLegend
3 months ago
Could someone make a dropbox or zip file with all his removed songs (mostly the ones from the FedUp and FedUpVideo channel) and send me the link? That would be much appreciated. Thanks.
JohnTN
3 months ago
Wow even OMFG's Twitter has been wiped and how has only one tweet talking about Canada day with fireworks.
@AlexSavageOMFG: Canada Day is going to be friggin lit ! http://twitter.com/AlexSavageOMFG/status/748691795991638016/photo/1
@AlexSavageOMFG: Canada Day is going to be friggin lit ! http://twitter.com/AlexSavageOMFG/status/748691795991638016/photo/1
Meme-monster
3 months ago
Why did 2 of loells channels get deleted? did he flag them or something? there were some pretty cool songs on there.
xcinda
3 months ago
Well, seems like Loell's old channel has been terminated. I wonder if he deleted it himself.
xcinda
xcinda - 3 months ago
btw if anyone has downloaded his old song " dream cycle" i would be really glad if you could reupload it somwhere.
Who cares?
3 months ago
Honestly, who cares? Some guy I will never meet, living on the other side of the world, realised that guys will be more likely to listen to music if there's a picture of a pretty girl on it - because he's totally right - so a bunch of guys get upset because a) they refused to believe a girl could make music and b) they were duped into clicking on a picture of a girl. I still like the music - even if the songs are similar. So I will continue to listen and give new songs a chance. I'll base my listening to music purely on the merits of the music, thanks. Plenty of bands out there have terrible members or backstories.
Kylee is Kool
3 months ago
Okay why did he freak out because she couldn't take a selfie a day... I mean like. I know he needs to do some secret things with those pictures. She is pretty good looking. HE FREAKS OUT OVER THIS THOUGH! LIKE WAT THE FUDGE! Okay I think I'm done... Oh yeah did anyone notice in Mashed Potatoes Kylee says "You are a"?
Wismic
3 months ago
'Seeing as how every OMFG song so far has been another remix of an earlier ElectroPhant song, or worse, another remix of Hello, it's fair to say his popularity won't last too long.'
If you listen to every GlitchHop song by OMFG, they all have the same scale, are all in the same key, and 3 of the songs use the same exact melody & chords, as well as the exact same sounds. (Other elements are also reused in almost all of the songs as well, but won't go into details). You can hear it for yourself, just listen closely.
It's sad how large people can get from basically re-uploading the same song over & over.
But as you can see on OMFG's Soundcloud; every single song uploaded is almost exactly half the plays as the song uploaded before it, then slowly begins to decline by a couple hundred-thousand(s). Further proof that OMFG's popularity won't live on for long at all.
Let's take a look, in order of release:
Hello - 8.47m
I Love You - 4.71m
Yeah - 2.14m
OK - 1.41m
Ice Cream - 1.35m
Mashed Potatoes - 772k
Wonderful - 647k
Stardust - 440k
Jelly - 354k
If you listen to every GlitchHop song by OMFG, they all have the same scale, are all in the same key, and 3 of the songs use the same exact melody & chords, as well as the exact same sounds. (Other elements are also reused in almost all of the songs as well, but won't go into details). You can hear it for yourself, just listen closely.
It's sad how large people can get from basically re-uploading the same song over & over.
But as you can see on OMFG's Soundcloud; every single song uploaded is almost exactly half the plays as the song uploaded before it, then slowly begins to decline by a couple hundred-thousand(s). Further proof that OMFG's popularity won't live on for long at all.
Let's take a look, in order of release:
Hello - 8.47m
I Love You - 4.71m
Yeah - 2.14m
OK - 1.41m
Ice Cream - 1.35m
Mashed Potatoes - 772k
Wonderful - 647k
Stardust - 440k
Jelly - 354k
OMFG won't last long because not only is it all almost the same songs over and over, but also because his mixing/mastering is legitimately terrible. His production value has also been decreasing per release. (I thought you're supposed to get better over time.. Huh). [sarcasm].
Point is; OMFG/Loell only got "famous" because:
1. Used a girl to basically 'click-bait' (same thing works with those promotional channels that use girls asses to get clicks) [Ps. use adblock on them]
2. Created a new style of GlitchHop/EDM (which he can't even maintain variety in)
Point is; OMFG/Loell only got "famous" because:
1. Used a girl to basically 'click-bait' (same thing works with those promotional channels that use girls asses to get clicks) [Ps. use adblock on them]
2. Created a new style of GlitchHop/EDM (which he can't even maintain variety in)
So with this all being said, it's not a matter of *opinion. He won't be around for long. Just a memory. It's statistics.
inb4: Don't be salty or be one of his little fan-girls and try to defend him on this one. Statistics don't lie. "There is no right to a wrong statement".
Xoralm
Steve Willeso - 3 months ago
Already did so. Beautiful textbook example of an exponential! :D
http://imgur.com/2YpHxjK
http://imgur.com/2YpHxjK
Steve Willeso
Wismic - 3 months ago
Exactly this. It's interesting to note he mentions on the stream that SuicideSheep actually rejected his later music.
I could be wrong but part of me wonders if Hello was almost 'accidentally' good.
Perhaps I should make a graph with those play counts.
Redstonedude
Wismic - 3 months ago
You're not looking at the stats correctly - of course his earlier sounds will have more views, they came out first! They've had more time to be spread around. I've looked at the states not and mashed potatoes and jelly have both gained 1k since you uploaded the stats, indicating that they are growing at roughly the same rate. Of couse the older videos will begin to grow less because generally the rate of views goes down over time. Give Jelly another 10 months so it's been out as long as hello (roughly), and then compare stats. He is gaining subscribers daily, just look on any stats page (http://vidstatsx.com/alexsavageomfg/youtube-channel)
Sean
Redstonedude - 3 months ago
He may be gaining subscribers daily, but the rate at which he is gaining subscribers has been down month on month so far as has the rate at which he's gaining views on his videos, the only time it spikes is when he releases a new song, however those spikes have been getting smaller and smaller, with the most recent song hardly being noticeable in the statistics.
With a rate of growth so rapidly diminishing it doesn't like he can keep going without being eventually forced to make some major changes.
Another thing to point out Hello was released Fall 2014, I Love you was released at the very beginning of 2015, if you follow the growth trends of his previous songs excluding Hello, that is not enough separation between them for the prior one to grow 4,000,000 views, yet that's the difference between Hello and I Love You on SoundCloud.
Once again I'm going to put out there that I believe the initial surge in growth was down to SuicideSheep featuring the song (regardless of if Loell really submitted it or not, doesn't change the effect it will have had) and since then OMFG has been living off that surge, which has been slowly dissipating.
Once again I'm going to put out there that I believe the initial surge in growth was down to SuicideSheep featuring the song (regardless of if Loell really submitted it or not, doesn't change the effect it will have had) and since then OMFG has been living off that surge, which has been slowly dissipating.
Redstonedude
Redstonedude - 3 months ago
You make some good points, but there's a few things:
1) SoundCloud may be largely biased, considering suicidesheep put the soundcloud links for Hello and I Love You, but did not post any of the others, so those two would be expected to have done better. His personal YouTube will have the best statistics
2) Yes, there has been an initial surge, however OMFG has not been "living" off of that surge, it's been a year and he is still growing, albeit at a diminishing rate, he rarely looses subscribers each day. I don't think it would be fair to say that people are on suicide sheep's channel, going to sub to OMFG a year after the video was posted, OMFG's songs are attracting viewers.
3) As far as the "diminishing subscribers" goes I cannot find any good statistics on it, but he appears to be going fairly steady over the past 90 days (http://vidstatsx.com/alexsavageomfg/subscribers-90-days). I cannot find any logs which go back further.
4) Yes, Hello and I Love You had vastly different success, however Hello was the first song he released as OMFG, and the first song any artist releases has much greater success then following ones, simply because it is something very new. Take Meghan Trainor as the first example I could find off the top of my head: first song(All about that bass; 1.4bn views), second song (Dead future husband; 255m views). The vast majority of artists feel this sudden drop from their first song, but then gradually grow again. Of course you could argue that Meghan is the same as OMFG, and reuses her melody and chords, however she has consistently made it to the charts and does not show and signs of failing, as you imply OMFG will. This also leads onto a key point; just because he reuses the chords, does not mean he will loose views/subs, each song is different enough and has a different enough message that some people will keep listening regardless, as he said in his livestream he uses the same melody because it sounds good to him and it's what he likes, and it applies to the viewers as well. If he changes it too much the viewers will not want to watch it, the viewers subscribed to him because they liked the melody, and more of it cannot hurt.
1) SoundCloud may be largely biased, considering suicidesheep put the soundcloud links for Hello and I Love You, but did not post any of the others, so those two would be expected to have done better. His personal YouTube will have the best statistics
2) Yes, there has been an initial surge, however OMFG has not been "living" off of that surge, it's been a year and he is still growing, albeit at a diminishing rate, he rarely looses subscribers each day. I don't think it would be fair to say that people are on suicide sheep's channel, going to sub to OMFG a year after the video was posted, OMFG's songs are attracting viewers.
3) As far as the "diminishing subscribers" goes I cannot find any good statistics on it, but he appears to be going fairly steady over the past 90 days (http://vidstatsx.com/alexsavageomfg/subscribers-90-days). I cannot find any logs which go back further.
4) Yes, Hello and I Love You had vastly different success, however Hello was the first song he released as OMFG, and the first song any artist releases has much greater success then following ones, simply because it is something very new. Take Meghan Trainor as the first example I could find off the top of my head: first song(All about that bass; 1.4bn views), second song (Dead future husband; 255m views). The vast majority of artists feel this sudden drop from their first song, but then gradually grow again. Of course you could argue that Meghan is the same as OMFG, and reuses her melody and chords, however she has consistently made it to the charts and does not show and signs of failing, as you imply OMFG will. This also leads onto a key point; just because he reuses the chords, does not mean he will loose views/subs, each song is different enough and has a different enough message that some people will keep listening regardless, as he said in his livestream he uses the same melody because it sounds good to him and it's what he likes, and it applies to the viewers as well. If he changes it too much the viewers will not want to watch it, the viewers subscribed to him because they liked the melody, and more of it cannot hurt.
BlindGlow
3 months ago
His name is Loell Bergen. Because at one point of the OMFG livestream, I recall Rankpop referring to him as "Loell". It'll be in the footage somewhere.
Redstonedude
ParaDoX - 3 months ago
Also something interesting happens here:
https://www.twitch.tv/alexsavageomfg/v/73017971?t=03h19m24s
menace
3 months ago
So ive read through
Instead of just saying that he is a guy that wanted a career boost with a girls face to help out, Which is the only thing that needed to be said.
Instead of just saying that he is a guy that wanted a career boost with a girls face to help out, Which is the only thing that needed to be said.
You go on Posting shit "EDM Producer, guy who watched some tutorials" which is definetly false. He has alot more talent than that.
Including shit like "one inch bergen" is extremely unnecessary. Wether that story is true, that he goes for young and old girls does not fucking matter and you should not bring personal life matter into this.
Including shit like "one inch bergen" is extremely unnecessary. Wether that story is true, that he goes for young and old girls does not fucking matter and you should not bring personal life matter into this.
" it's fair to say this popularity won't last too long." His career has just started bud. Hes earning cash while all you can do is sit on your ass making An exposing site that isnt even fucking needed, he knew himself that one day he had come out about it (yesterday)
Do something better with yourself.
DGN
menace - 3 months ago
Salty alert.
I don't know about you bud, but to me, anyone who exploits girls just for more popularity is a prick...
I don't know about you bud, but to me, anyone who exploits girls just for more popularity is a prick...
menace
DGN - 3 months ago
This is the first time im actually quite salty yes. He didnt exploit shit, He has been making music since he was a little kid, never really thinking much of it until the last 2 years. He contacted girls with the idea, And kylee was the one to accept, And he didnt exploit anyone, He even fucking paid her. All he asked for was a selfie a day, She didnt want to, the deal ended. Simple as that. This website is a joke.
Steve Willeso
menace - 3 months ago
Speculation I know, but the fact that she walked away when Loell was offering money (and he claims in the stream it was a lot) makes me think there's more to it than he's admitting.
Sean
menace - 3 months ago
I'm not sure I agree with you saying he didn't exploit anyone, using a girl just to get young males to visit your songs (whether or not they really like them, as some people just followed OMFG for Kylee) pretty much follows the definition of exploitation of both Kylee (exploiting her to get viewers, payment means that she isn't being used, but she's still being exploited) and the viewers (being deceived into believing they're following someone they're not).
As for the part about the tooltip for "EDM Producers" (a tooltip because it's not directly about Loell) that isn't so much about Loell as it is about the state of the EDM scene in general, if you go around a lot of songs the way they're put together is just generally bad and you can legitimately follow a tutorial and pump out some
real trap shit
in under a day.
Following on to the part regarding his popularity not lasting long, if you look at the trends none of his recent songs have seen spikes in growth like Hello (and I'm standing by my belief that that was primarily down to SuicideSheep promoting it on his channel, whether or not Loell submitted it or someone else did), a lack of growth points to stagnation in fanbase, something which is not sustainable.
The point about Loell knowing he needed to come out one day is a fairly moot point as Loell himself admitted on the livestream that when asked by friends how long he was going to keep the act up he said "forever", the only reason he had to drop it was because Kylee refused the new arrangements he was telling her and you can hardly swap out the female front that has been supposedly making the songs for the past 2 years for another female without making an obvious scene.
My final point is that this site is not a full time job for anyone, it's something made in an extremely short amount of time that needs to be updated rarely, and this site was never made to get at Loell but more just for the fun of investigating a known internet conspiracy (one which turned out to be true nonetheless).
Trinity
3 months ago
So what if he's a boy? He gave good reasons in his livestream to why he did this. One reason was to go against the demographics, this means he would get more attention than usual. I couldn't care less if he used her as the face of OMFG to get clicks, he deserves this attention because he's a great artist. But sadly, a lot of horny 12 year olds are complaining.
Redstonedude
Steve Willeso - 3 months ago
He made a very good point on stream that alot of other artists do similar things. All the big pop artists don't write their own music, or even lyrics, the majority of them are just paid to sing what is in front of them. OMFG Just goes a step further and removes the singing part as well. And before you go off saying that because Kylee doesn't sing it is entirely different let me point out two things;
1) Apparently there's voice clips from her in songs like Mashed Potatoes, so she has done some stuff.
2) He doesn't sing either as he rarely uses his voice, the majority, if not all, lyrics are produced using the talk box.
3) In pop songs autotune and other post-production tools are used, so at the end of the day it's not even their true voice.
1) Apparently there's voice clips from her in songs like Mashed Potatoes, so she has done some stuff.
2) He doesn't sing either as he rarely uses his voice, the majority, if not all, lyrics are produced using the talk box.
3) In pop songs autotune and other post-production tools are used, so at the end of the day it's not even their true voice.
Anders
Trinity - 2 months ago
Well it kinda worked. I heard Hello and a few other songs before i realised that it was a girl behind it (or we thought it was) but i would have probably not browsed the youtube channel and followed the twitter if it wasnt. Not because i wanted to ogle at a pretty girl, but because it was interesting that a young female was making this kind of music, which is pretty rare
menace
3 months ago
"Notice how the voice is quite clearly male." retards dont know how a talk box work
Steve Willeso
menace - 3 months ago
See Sean's previous comment on the matter:
"Talkboxes are things you use to help you alter the sound you produce using your mouth, therefore the shape of the face and jaw (as is biologically different in a male and a female) dictates how it'll sound as it changes the airflow out of your mouth."
"Talkboxes are things you use to help you alter the sound you produce using your mouth, therefore the shape of the face and jaw (as is biologically different in a male and a female) dictates how it'll sound as it changes the airflow out of your mouth."
Redstonedude
Steve Willeso - 3 months ago
Perhaps slightly, however the majority of sound is dictated by the voice box, that's why 7 year old boys don't sound like your average 30 year old male, sure the jaw might change a bit but the majority of it happens when the voice box changes, also you don't need to breathe to make a talk box work, unlike your voice box, so airflow sometimes isn't even a factor.
Steve Willeso
3 months ago
Well, looks like we're famous:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BS1Yw93SKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BS1Yw93SKo
nico
3 months ago
so can someone explained what happened in the live stream? i missed it and really want to know if he explained anything
AM SU CUNFUSED DAFUQ
3 months ago
My name is the best thing lolol and get that fkin pice uv shet from omfg i was loving the woman ;-;
Memelord
3 months ago
SOOOOO. Alex=omfg the guy. he started making music no one knew him, he wanted to gain fame but didnt know how, so he was like girls dont make music lets make ppl think im a girl. so the girl got 50 cents for every dollar he made and she did nothing just pretended to be omfg. and now the girl is not working for him anymore
LORD ONION SNIK
3 months ago
Why would you do this, Kylee? There was absolutely no reason to! You probably thought that you wouldn't have to deal with any of this and get famous, but you were wrong! I'm ashamed of myself for liking your work and thinking it was you, I was most clearly wrong.
Steve Willeso
LORD ONION SNIK - 3 months ago
In fairness it wasn't really Kylee who was behind it - it was Loell.
Chen Boi
3 months ago
This vid has just confirmed many things:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzwHIO3qYw0
Sean
Chen Boi - 3 months ago
I was under the impression that video was embedded at the top of this page with a giant "IT'S HAPPENING" background.
I suppose it's possible you're seeing an old version, but either way yea, that video has confirmed the majority of things this website has been saying all along.
Dinosaur
3 months ago
A little context, I don't care if Loell is an asshole or fame whore, but I'm a huge fan of his music, so I've been trying to find all his channels since the moment I found out about him, in the hopes of finding more of his music.
Here are the channels I found:
FedUpVideo:
https://www.youtube.com/user/FedUpVideo/
PhantBass:
https://www.youtube.com/user/PhantBass/
piopsi2:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDK3lPNjDTxi1no09VEzEFg
(This one's probably his oldest account)
(This one's probably his oldest account)
PrimaryBujee:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPu4c_cN6WqEEdV2ptAMhXw
There was also this other account with his real name 'Loell Bergen' but he took it that one down a week ago, last time he was active on that account was in 2011.
Link to that account: https://www.youtube.com/user/ItsNewTechno/
He flagged his own account, wow.
But that account only had 4 videos, 2 of which I have on my computer, if anyone's interested let me know.
Link to that account: https://www.youtube.com/user/ItsNewTechno/
He flagged his own account, wow.
But that account only had 4 videos, 2 of which I have on my computer, if anyone's interested let me know.
Dinosaur
Dinosaur - 3 months ago
I also have the video feed for the Q&A video.
For more drama, check out SuicideSheep's post, this happened in January tho, and after 10-15 days, the video was back up.
Post link: https://www.facebook.com/MrSuicideSheep/posts/683939974975814
Post link: https://www.facebook.com/MrSuicideSheep/posts/683939974975814
M95
Dinosaur - 2 months ago
I've got a version without the watermark & higher quality:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-XTltfFQxmEcWxBYnFYY1RHUDA/view
Dinosaur
Dinosaur - 3 months ago
Here's the QA video:
https://pixeldra.in/u/SnOQ58
Save it before it's taken down.
Tompole5
3 months ago
I saw the video nofication.... WHO IS THIS ANYMORE.... I am honestly too confused and... Just... this just.... To confusing to me that I can't think of words.... I can get easily confused sometimes.... But this just....... I am now gone forever from the Internet... Thank you... I hate you now OMFG..... Just too far....
eric chan
3 months ago
um wtf I looked at one of the IP from Winnipeg and one of my friends goes to the school the IP was traced to.........
Wismic
3 months ago
The last statement "seeing as how every song so far has been another remix of an earlier ElectroPhant song, or worse, another remix of Hello, it's fair to say this popularity won't last too long." All I can say is thank God somebody else noticed that almost every OMFG song is nearly the exact same to each other, as well as many of the songs having the exact same sounds, melodies, and structure.
As a producer and artist of over 7 years, it's not hard to tell what-so-ever, for those just picking the songs apart.
As a producer and artist of over 7 years, it's not hard to tell what-so-ever, for those just picking the songs apart.
swaggerman
3 months ago
When googling Kylee Boettcher, i found some interesting things. This is an old google plus with pictures of her from earlier in 2014:
And apparently she did modeling: http://lanestudio.zenfolio.com/p146553548/h5C7354D2#h5c73642b
And apparently she did modeling: http://lanestudio.zenfolio.com/p146553548/h5C7354D2#h5c73642b
Tehtafara0
3 months ago
Guys, i'v got audio feed from the Q&A video.
https://mega.nz/#!aJMhyTqC!lIJ8sePoizR4nhuRx6BZOsPbrd1gNjPo7Wc0Dp-vaV4
If you have the video feed reply to my comment with it.
https://mega.nz/#!aJMhyTqC!lIJ8sePoizR4nhuRx6BZOsPbrd1gNjPo7Wc0Dp-vaV4
If you have the video feed reply to my comment with it.
potatos4life
3 months ago
hi i support u guys and all that u guys are doing i was just in soundcloud and looked around heard a few omfg songs and realised that she "kylee" only added scoopy and he added her but not the other 300+ people so maybe just maybe scoopy might be a ghost producer too.
Steve Willeso
potatos4life - 3 months ago
In fairness Scoopy hasn't uploaded any music and to be honest I doubt they'd be quite so obvious about it.
potatos4life
Steve Willeso - 3 months ago
Then how did he get like 300+ followers in the first place thats my question
Steve Willeso
potatos4life - 3 months ago
If I had to guess, from people who saw that OMFG follows him.
peabody505
3 months ago
OH BOY LOOK AT WHAT I JUST DISCOVERED
https://soundcloud.com/rufus-mullhaupt/electrophant-hurts-left-omfg-yeah-right
peabody505
3 months ago
So its really obvious that Stardust and Jelly were not produced by the same person as all the previous OMFG tracks. Theory is that Loell stopped producing for Kylee and she had to go get another producer to maintain her fame.
Doublemint Dave
3 months ago
So I've been following the Snapchat account of OMFG for a good long while now. She adds a few snaps to her story a day and I have absolutely never ever seen anything remotely related to music producing. This alone is reason enough for me to believe that she has nothing to do with the music she claims to produce. Practically every artist is real passionate about their craft and would be happy to share what they do with their fans. It's just impossible to post so much nonsense a day and never post about music. She even shares progress on drawings she works on.
But today, your local ghost producer finally decided to step his game up and uploaded a video of a track in progress on the OMFG snapchat. The video is shot in a dark room which I've never seen before with an extremely obvious different camera than she uses daily. I've linked a screenshot on the snap with a snap she uploaded the same day on her personal account + an older snap from the OMFG account for diehard deniers who will say she uses a different phone for a different account, which she doesn't. There is no way the one time she happends to use a different camera is the one and only time we see something about producing.
Doublemint Dave
Doublemint Dave - 3 months ago
Ps. I asked about it and ''she'' claimed to have three different phones (which she never bothered to use except for this one time appereantly) and blocked me when I asked him to take a selfie with the PC to debunk it
Sean
Doublemint Dave - 3 months ago
This is a fantastic find.
Considering all previous photos of her at or near a computer had been a laptop whilst she was sitting on her bed in a room with purple walls, this sudden photo of a room with orange walls and an Alienware system really just screams 'fake'. Bringing more to the point of the purple walls, the 'sadness is badness' photo she's also posted everywhere today also shows her in a room with purple walls, not orange.
Considering all previous photos of her at or near a computer had been a laptop whilst she was sitting on her bed in a room with purple walls, this sudden photo of a room with orange walls and an Alienware system really just screams 'fake'. Bringing more to the point of the purple walls, the 'sadness is badness' photo she's also posted everywhere today also shows her in a room with purple walls, not orange.
It's a little odd how every social media account had been inactive for over two weeks however.
Kwhiz
3 months ago
I Have A Theory I Think They Met As Friends Maybe Online Or At Real Life Before Then Loell Making Music And Maybe Kylee Was His Assistant Before And Making A Skype Account For Them Selves And I Think There Were Separate Accounts OR Maybe Its Only A Single Skype Account For There Selves Then Maybe They Forgot It And Make An Another Account And The Website AlexOMFG.com Maybe They Decided To Make For There Own Official Website And Maybe They Forgot It Again So They Make Another Website With Same Name And Maybe The Name Alex Has Been Chosen Because Alex Can Be A Name Of A Girl Or A Boy LOL And For There Location Maybe They Live Recently On That Place And They Decided To Move To Some Where And Probably They Met In That Place Or Recently On There Previous Place Or Maybe One Of Them Move There If They Were Met Online And Thats All Of My Theory
George Cummings
4 months ago
why does it matter their is person who makes good music so what if they pretend to be someone else and use that person as their face. oh and nothing you have shown is real evidence oh the songs have a similar beat only one person could make and lots of EDM people have talkbox as you call it idk what is is called but even if it not by alex does it matter?
Steve Willeso
George Cummings - 4 months ago
Right two arguments you've given:
- It doesn't matter because they make good music. Perhaps not but it's understandable that people might feel mislead, especially seeing as how they're selling it to an extent on Kylee's personality and looks.
- What about the whois records that show that Loell owns AlexOMFG.com? Surely that's some pretty solid data. Or the fact that SuicideSheep credited the song to "Kylee Botcher (sic) and/or Loell Bergen". Or the fact that he's using many of the same synth presets and the fact that the talkbox sounds the same. I have a talkbox, I can assure you I won't sound quite the same as Loell does or quite the same as Daft Punk does. It's affected by both your head and how you shape your mouth and your lips, which everyone does a bit differently.
Does it matter? Well that's up to you to decide. This site is targeted at those who think it does.
George Cummings
Steve Willeso - 4 months ago
Ok sure but Loell and Kylee are just good at business and they are not doing anything bad and writers used pen names all the time in the past people would say they are of another gender or race and still do this day
when it says look at these two song and ow similar they are with the talkbox must be the same person and it is both song say they are ElctroPhant so idk what that is proving
saying look it said "Kylee Botcher and/or Loell Bergen" and then saying they removed it and no other way to find it anywhere seems fake that only one screen shot was taken of that (photo shop is a thing that you can get or just word and he type is up in the format of descriptions on youtube) and they would have said Alex because that is her pen name not Kylee when she probably signed everything as Alex
and saying this site is for people who think it matters that is just trying to get people who are arguing the opposite side of the topic off the site and that gets rid of all reason to have discussion and you will never come to a conclusion (do you think anything notable would have been done if we all agreed?)
and just using the word expose when talking about someone is just going to start debate and in a debate their needs to be RELIABLE evidence not something i could make in 10 minutes and say it is real show me that stuff not "screenshots"
Sean
George Cummings - 4 months ago
Writers use pen names a lot, usually to hide their identity in a potentially controversial subject. But a pen name does not usually entail having someone be the front for you, it's usually just an alias.
When Steve says look at the talkbox he means in the ElectroPhant songs and in OMFG - Hello.
The SuicideSheep footer can be found by specifically googling "OMFG - Hello Kylee Botcher Creative Commons" and looking at the cached versions or google descriptions of some of the youtube mirrors returned. This isn't the best way, but as youtube has no way of viewing past descriptions using its own website this is the only way we've got besides the screenshot.
The evidence on this (besides some of the screenshots which can no longer be properly recreated in a reliable manner due to takedowns and edits) is all based on fact, the Skype evidence for one is a major find in linking OMFGs Skype account directly to the Skype account of Loell Bergen, IP addresses cannot lie (unless it was a VPN services IP block, but it isn't, it's a consumer ISP). To actually understand how important that part of the evidence is does require some understanding of how IP addressing works and how absolutely impossible it is for an IP address in canada (the same IP as been seen logging into one of Loells accounts) to log in to OMFGs account without it having to be from behind the same router as Loell, and as at one point a Minnesota IP and a Winnipeg IP were both logged in at the same time this rules out OMFG being at Loells house or being on holiday.
The other major part in linking them is the domain whois (
http://www.domainhistory.net/a... ) which was edited shortly after OMFG - Hello started becoming popular. You can say this website is faking it, but every whois history recording service says the same.
The comments are here for people to give their say, be it for or against, and for other people like myself to reply to argue my thoughts. But at the end of the day it's up to you to develop your own conclusion. However with you arguing so hard against the evidence being reliable and that it's all screenshots I do wonder if you've actually tried to follow your own line of enquiry before calling this sites evidence falsified.
potatos4life
Steve Willeso - 3 months ago
guys if u didnt realise, OMFG jelly is a "remix" of OMFG YEAH but just a lower pitch
Adam
4 months ago
[some fellow tells us about how suicidesheep's channel actually credited the song to Loell Bergen]
Sean
Adam - 4 months ago
Hey Adam,
Regarding the description, from what I can tell that was added the day the video was put back up (15th February from what I can find) after being taken down by 'OMFG' then changed on or before the 25th February, I can't find any archives showing it as being this on YouTube but have found sites that embed the videos showing it, along with a re-upload showing it.
Regarding the description, from what I can tell that was added the day the video was put back up (15th February from what I can find) after being taken down by 'OMFG' then changed on or before the 25th February, I can't find any archives showing it as being this on YouTube but have found sites that embed the videos showing it, along with a re-upload showing it.
Sadly this is not concrete enough to use, however fantastic it is. However if you did happen to have a screenshot of this, or if anyone else does, that'd be fantastic if you could embed it here or link it.
COMMENTOR5000Nicknamelol
5 months ago
I'm really confused, so what does it all mean? like Loell is like what? the real OMFG or WHAT wait whaaaa?
ok so they both are co-workers and copy other people's work?
ok so they both are co-workers and copy other people's work?
Mnc Marcos
5 months ago
I m pretty sure omfg is fake, i dont know if this guy is the ghost producer, but you can say it, all the songs of omfg are just the same, that prove she doesnt have his own style, maybe the other songs are from her own, but she just copy the patterns of the other songs, if you produce music, u will note a lot of things between this songs and the songs of omfg, not just the patters and the mellody, but well, a girl and a pretty face earn followers
Tarik Maljanovic
5 months ago
GUYS THIS IS NOT GOOD I HAVE BEEN LISTENING SINCE 2015 AND I THOUGHT SHE WAS MAKING THE MUSIC BUT SHE IS NOT. LISTEN TO A REVERSED TRACK. THIS PROVES THAT THE VOICE IS MALE. I DID IT MYSELF BUT CANNOT POST IT.
emily
6 months ago
We all say it is Lionel but isn't it possible it could be a relative and she is not saying that for privacy of her family or friends? And what music app thingy did she use? It looks familiar to me but i just can't come to the name of the app?
just1guitar1
6 months ago
First of all how is calling Kylee merely a pawn supposed to not be insulting
Secondly Just want to point out your Whois claim is false, how can the old raw register data be updated to a year that hasn't happened,
As for your IP proof you need proof links to this information :|
Also Winnipeg Canada is very close to Minnisota
As for your IP proof you need proof links to this information :|
Also Winnipeg Canada is very close to Minnisota
Thirdly As for the Talkbox sounding male, it should be easy to make it to sound either male or female
As for Loell's other talkbox sounding similar almost all talkbox voices can sound similar, and he uses a "female" at the beginning of the ElectroPhant OMFG,
Lastly as for the e-mail, easily you could have just spammed his email with a new account each time, until you get the response you wanted, the Lol you responded with immediately after getting the response you want makes me believe this it the case. (You as in the troll who was doing that)
As for Loell's other talkbox sounding similar almost all talkbox voices can sound similar, and he uses a "female" at the beginning of the ElectroPhant OMFG,
Lastly as for the e-mail, easily you could have just spammed his email with a new account each time, until you get the response you wanted, the Lol you responded with immediately after getting the response you want makes me believe this it the case. (You as in the troll who was doing that)
Also where are your links to this stuff??
Sean
just1guitar1 - 6 months ago
The WHOIS update date is the date the information was obtained from the WHOIS history service used. (
http://www.domainhistory.net/a... - this is another service, however still shows the same as the one used here)
The source for the IP addresses can be found in a comment further down.
Winnipeg, CA may be close to Minnisota, US, but the IP address ranges are not and never will be the same as no US ISPs serve Winnipeg, and ranges are allocated by the regional registries directly to the ISPs. Hence why the name of the ISP is provided with each IP address, since you can perform a WHOIS lookup using the registries website (in this case ARIN as they're the regional registry for the US and Canada).
Talkboxes are things you use to help you alter the sound you produce using your mouth, therefore the shape of the face and jaw (as is biologically different in a male and a female) dictates how it'll sound as it changes the airflow out of your mouth.
The female at the beginning of Electrophant - OMFG is more likely to be speech synthesis than a talkbox as it doesn't have any of the signature sounds which you can identify a talkbox with.
The email is not actually from this website nor was it sent to Loell by this website. It was found on another website named SkrillexMothership in a thread regarding this same subject before this website existed. So it may be that the original sender simply continued sending him emails but with the dates between them that is quite unlikely. Plus you have the fact that the replies fit with the general character you can make out from other comments on his own channel, and from the OMFG comebacks or comments on the YouTube channel or SoundCloud.
It's generally a good idea to go into something with an open mind, rather than jumping into it on the defensive condemning everything as false and untrue. You're free to make up your own mind but just remember everything isn't always how it seems.
Ever noticed how someone with the musical knowhow and equipment (mixer and such) never talks about it at all outside of "released a new song" on Twitter and that the only photos of Kylee at a computer are her with a laptop, and that all photos she's ever posted of her room show absolutely nowhere to put a multi-channel mixer or a desktop computer?
Pony with an AK
7 months ago
I'm not sure if you guys noticed yet but Loell created a SoundCloud account revealing that he is indeed the ghost producer.
Steve Willeso
Pony with an AK - 12 days ago
Turns out this wasn't Loell - this was some other guy who apparently did a really good job of mastering Loell's style.
Not surprisingly really - the quality of the mixing is far better than anything Loell has done.
Pampa
7 months ago
Couldn't someone just issue a complaint for the whois, claiming him/her that the registrant personal infos are faked? I believe under US law, whois cannot be legally falsified, so it would either lead to the registrar banning the domain or the whois information to be rolled back to its previous state, but would require him/her to provide his/her identity for defense.
TheOMFG
8 months ago
and to top it all off as the icing on the cake, they stole my name;
I am TheOMFG and have been producing for over 8 years
John B
John B - 4 months ago
Oops.
I've never really heard of 'TheOMFG' but you may be impersonating as this person.
Sean
John B - 4 months ago
Since he has tracks with the name 'TheOMFG' dating back far beyond the origins of AlexSavageOMFG it's unlikely he's A) an impersonator or B) trying to get the publicity.
Honestly since his tracks sound different it's far more likely the names being similar is just a major coincidence.
nkntwwm
8 months ago
"First of all, there's an IP from Winnipeg, the same city in Canada. Notice how the first IP is very similar to the one that has connected to AlexOMFG's account before."
first 4-6 letters in ip are related to isp so this is nonsense
first 4-6 letters in ip are related to isp so this is nonsense
Sean
nkntwwm - 8 months ago
I have no idea what these letters you're talking about are in the IP, as all of those are IPv4s which only use decimal octets as representations, so cannot use letters.
If you mean the first few numbers represent the ISP then no, no they do not, if you had the faintest clue about IPv4 subnetting you'd know how ranges are allocated.
However if you actually look at the IP addresses you will notice that both of the IPs are from the same ISP as mentioned, and are on such a close range belonging to that ISP that it's likely they were assigned from the same DSLAM as I'm under the assumption most of Canada uses xDSL.
Eniota69
9 months ago
Nice researchs, Lionel is obvsiously OMFG, you just forget a little thing : I follow Alex (Kylee) on snapchat since a long time, and she NEVER talked about music, or computers. She clearly like drawing, mangas, and clothes. I saw nothing about music, she never talked about that on her twitter account too.
Firstable, sorry for my english, I'm French x)
Firstable, sorry for my english, I'm French x)
Secondly, you didn't really talk about ElectroPhant : is there my theory about that.
Lionel began music 6 years ago, by posting some little sounds he made on his yt account :
https://www.youtube.com/channe...
He saw that some people liked that, so he decided to grow up and open another youtube account : Electrophant (probably with a friend). He worked harder and harder, on his musics, and created "Rockets".
I think then he understood something : He gots talent, and can be "known". Then he decided to contact Alex in order to get a beautiful ghost producer, better than him to manage the OMFG's look.
He started from zero hoping that nobody will make the link between Electrophant and OMFG.
I think then he understood something : He gots talent, and can be "known". Then he decided to contact Alex in order to get a beautiful ghost producer, better than him to manage the OMFG's look.
He started from zero hoping that nobody will make the link between Electrophant and OMFG.
Thanks for reading me, answer me if you want :)
Bassic
Eniota69 - 9 months ago
And then he realized that he wouldn't be able to become a famous dj and decided to expose Kylee by making another soundcloud(
https://soundcloud.com/itsmeomfg
)
. He's adding to the attack by even taking down I Love You on Suicide Sheep.
. He's adding to the attack by even taking down I Love You on Suicide Sheep.
Kellan Spaceboy Green
10 months ago
[insert a comment about having an information systems degree and doubting the evidence here]
Sean
Kellan Spaceboy Green - 10 months ago
If you had an information systems degree you should know that even if your IP address changes the location geolookup websites report (which is totally viable as they look it up using triangulation information which update every x amount of months), your ISP would not change, you would also not suddenly move from using a Canadian ISP to a United States ISP, both at the same time, on the same day.
Kylee is from Minnesota, if you check the photos she's posted on her personal Facebook (one of which has her wearing a beauty pageant outfit with Minnesota along the sash) and her meetme location, which is down as Alexandria, Minnesota.
I'm unsure why the OMFG Skype lists the location as Edmonton, and a few other OMFG things do too. Considering neither Loell nor Kylee are from there.
Case Void was made by someone over at skrillexmothership forums to try and throw them off when they were running their own investigation into OMFG and is nothing to do with anything whatsoever.
Kellan Spaceboy Green
Sean - 10 months ago
You're right, I hadn't noticed the ISP change. I should have looked closer about that. Quite possible multiple people are using the account, could be Loell, could be a friend, could be someone she's working with, unless we know for sure...we don't know for sure. I also though, would like to see the source of the IP and Skype information before believing it, without anything backing it up it's just text on a page.
Literally the only thing here that makes me question any of this is the whois lookup, which likewise, is just a name on an account. All we know is that a name that is similar to Loell's is on the account.
I can't honestly say that it proves that she doesn't have a connection with Edmonton, only that she does have a connection with Minnesota. We've established she works from Minnesota currently, and likely has been there a while, but is there evidence of where she is actually from?
Unless you can say for sure that she's lived in Minnesota forever, this argument doesn't really work.
Unless you can say for sure that she's lived in Minnesota forever, this argument doesn't really work.
I saw the meetme, that's so fake it's not even worth mentioning.
How sure can you really be that she's not originally from Canada? I know multiple people that live somewhere and refer to themselves as being from somewhere else because they were born/raised there. Look at Savant, he's from Norway, everyone knows he's from Norway, but he's been living and working in the US for years.
Also I know this could well be fake, but if you watch her Q & A video, she has a Canadian accent (I'm fairly aware. I do live on the Canadian border) and a Minnesota accent is VERY different. I realize this is also not hard evidence, but it's unlikely for someone that has lived in Minnesota their whole life to have a Canadian accent.
Also I know this could well be fake, but if you watch her Q & A video, she has a Canadian accent (I'm fairly aware. I do live on the Canadian border) and a Minnesota accent is VERY different. I realize this is also not hard evidence, but it's unlikely for someone that has lived in Minnesota their whole life to have a Canadian accent.
The soundcould could very well be a troll. Possibly on either side. If you can dig up evidence on that, show me. You're right.
I don't believe you, and I'm well aware of the popularity, quality, all of that. None of that is evidence, it's using a theory to support itself.
The argument this site makes is clear, these connections are all rather tenuous. While there is a lot of suspicious evidence given, there are many explanations and possibilities for everything going on here. It seems like all of this is just speculation and loose evidence, not proof.
It happens literally all the time with humans, we see a suspicious situation and come up with the most interesting and controversial conclusion, then find whatever evidence we can and stretch it to fit our needs.
Sean
Kellan Spaceboy Green - 10 months ago
Well the Skype evidence shows the three different accounts, the OMFG account and the two accounts linked to Loell. The 'dustytrash' account and the OMFG account have a login from the same IP, as do the 'dustytrash' account and the 'phantbass' account, this links the three to having been logged in by the same person as the chances of the IP address getting allocated to someone else and them logging in is about as likely as me being struck and killed by a meteor.
I can be sure she's not originally from Canada as she lists her birthplace and the school she graduated from in Morris, Minnesota, her mother also graduated from Morris High School, so this leads to the assumption that the family has been from the same state for generations as the grandmother is also present in some of the family photos. I'd link you to all the sources for this however I'd rather not invade the privacy of Kylee when this is about Loell. However if you did want to go and find it yourself, you can dig up her personal facebook profile fairly easily. (Her mother on the other hand does not share her surname as she (re)married within the last few years and took the new surname, when Kylee kept the old surname)
The soundcloud sources can be found here:
http://skrillexmothership.net/...
However my main point is that sure the other evidence can be taken as coincidental, however the fact IP addresses link all three of the Skype accounts, two of which are known to belong to PhantBass (Loell Bergen) that rules out it just being another friend of Kylee's who has logged into the OMFG account, it has to be the same person who has logged into the PhantBass accounts.
Oh also in relation to the meetme, that was found via OMFG linking it on Twitter, I'd link to the tweet however she deleted it around 5 minutes after posting it.
Also as you mentioned wanting to see the sources for the Skype evidence yourself, you can go to this site (
http://skypegrab.net/oldip.php
) and enter the Skype names listed on this site to see the IP addresses. Other Skype lookup sites will return differently as the sites only return what they've seen before, and the evidence on this site was acquired through that site. Just to remove a line of defence before it's used, no it is not possible that they are using the Skype 'direct connection' option to hide their IP address to non-friends, as if they were it'd be showing an IP address belonging to Microsoft and not a residential ISP.
nkntwwm
Sean - 10 months ago
https://gyazo.com/0efdcea89265...
184.60.49.148 New London Minnesota
https://gyazo.com/29a30ab325f8...
184.60.49.148 New London Minnesota
https://gyazo.com/29a30ab325f8...
Sean
nkntwwm - 10 months ago
I'm not sure what your point is by making this comment, if it's to point out that a Minnesota IP address has connected to that Skype account then yes, this is already known and even pointed out on this website.
The general theory is that the Skype account is shared between Kylee and Loell.
The general theory is that the Skype account is shared between Kylee and Loell.
Also remember that whilst IP geolocation tools are accurate to the state, they're often not entirely accurate to the city level. Most often being ~50 miles out or so.
Anonymoose
Sean - 10 months ago
Can confirm that the Meetme profile was posted by her on twitter. I saw it before it was deleted also.
Kellan Spaceboy Green
Sean - 10 months ago
You make some good points, I could verify this all, but I'm honestly kind of bored of this by now and you definitely have done more research than I have.
Still though, unless I'm wrong, all that this all really does is show that they both use the account, and clearly establish a connection. This doesn't give us insight into their relationship, what hand each of them has in production, or even if Loell has any at all. It's a very bold accusation to base on a shared skype account.
Still though, unless I'm wrong, all that this all really does is show that they both use the account, and clearly establish a connection. This doesn't give us insight into their relationship, what hand each of them has in production, or even if Loell has any at all. It's a very bold accusation to base on a shared skype account.
Jake
Kellan Spaceboy Green - 10 months ago
ok sorry her accent is most certainly not Canadian.
Listen to the way she says "black", "have", "tattoo", "actually" "attached" "fast-paced" and even just the word "I" in the Q&A video - she says it like someone from Chicagoland or the suburban Midwest would say it - with "a"s that are nasally and long and "y" sounds sometimes creeping in just before the vowel.
The letter "a" in a typical rural Canadian accent (see video below for a good example) is much more relaxed and lazy-sounding than the raised way Midwestern Americans say it.
Listen to the way she says "black", "have", "tattoo", "actually" "attached" "fast-paced" and even just the word "I" in the Q&A video - she says it like someone from Chicagoland or the suburban Midwest would say it - with "a"s that are nasally and long and "y" sounds sometimes creeping in just before the vowel.
The letter "a" in a typical rural Canadian accent (see video below for a good example) is much more relaxed and lazy-sounding than the raised way Midwestern Americans say it.
Steve Willeso
Kellan Spaceboy Green - 10 months ago
To clarify - Kylee is
not
from Canada. She is from Minnesota. She just said she's from Canada to try and explain why her location may appear as being Canada when, for example, Loell is using her accounts.
Steve Willeso
Kellan Spaceboy Green - 10 months ago
Your IP might change, but it certainly wouldn't match someone else's from an entirely different country. It's way too much to simply be a coincidence.
There's absolutely no evidence linking that Soundcloud account to Kylee and it says "loll berger", probably a reference to Loell Bergen and honestly I suspect it's probably a troll account.
The argument this site makes is clear - Loell would ghost produce for a random American girl (she's not Canadian, despite what she's claimed to make the story seem more consistent), because it gets his music more exposure, more views, more ad revenue and more sales of both the song and merchandise.
If you don't believe me, look at the popularity of Loell's music both before and after it was released under OMFG's name. Quite simply, nobody cared. Granted the music is of an arguably higher quality now, but if Loell released the same songs on his channel tomorrow, nobody would care.
OMFGEXPOSED
Steve Willeso - 10 months ago
case void was admitted to having nothing to do with omfg, it was just a troll account
Preston Garvey
OMFGEXPOSED - 10 months ago
She's from Minnesota though. Type in Kylee Dawn Boettcher in on Google.
OMFGEXPOSED
10 months ago
this is very good evidence. however the video and audio clip you posted show no media for them. if you could re-upload that would be great.
OMFGEXPOSED
Sean - 10 months ago
i dont know entirely what that means but can you reupload them? im curious what these files were.
Preston Garvey
10 months ago
Hey guys! I just found out something interesting. Alex Savage's real name is Kylee Dawn Boettcher. Type it in on Google Images if you don't believe me. I found a load of old videos and Twitter accounts of hers when she was younger. I tweeted her a few months ago about it and she DM'd me back asking me where I got them from. I didn't tell her. So... I guess that's another clue to Alex's identity.
Also another thing to note is that when you type her name in, a lot of the search results suggest that come up are from Minnesota. Backing up your evidence from before.
Anonymous666
11 months ago
I can see you guys definitely did your research, either way, this is all about music. No matter who made it or who fronts it, its still good music for everyone to enjoy. Although the reasons may be purely coincidental or some plot to get popular, it doesn't really matter. All that really matters is the music in the end and the effect it has on people, as that's what it all really about. Thanks for doing this anyway! I hope you understand.
Anonymoose
Anonymous666 - 11 months ago
The thing that does matter is the fact that us as an audience have been lied to. I personally couldn't care less who made it, but I don't like being lied to.
Anonymous666
Anonymoose - 11 months ago
That I do agree with! Maybe if they decided to come clean it would help! But in the end it is all about the music... I did a bit of research and some people think that Loell tried to come clean, and blame Kylee Boettcher for letting the fame get to her, but he may be doing that to save his own hide... Who knows?
Anonymoose
Anonymous666 - 11 months ago
To be honest, I've had several conversations with Kylee and she seems to be a genuinely nice person. I don't blame her, more so Loell for ever asking her to do it in the first place.
If I was in Kylee's position I wouldnt want to give it up either.
TPRoll
Anonymoose - 3 months ago
I don't think it was kylee who let the fame get to her I think Loell used her...he was a failure on his own and needed a fresh face and mind so he found kylee. Then he used her ideas and image until the music blew up and he got greedy and started trying to cut her out, by using a different girls image and introducING his own face to fans....Loell got greedy not kylee....why else don't you see her anymore
etatoby
Anonymoose - 17 days ago
yeah, the selfie a day explanation sounded made up. did you talk with her about that? what did she have to say?
Steve Willeso
etatoby - 12 days ago
I haven't spoken to her but I've seen chatlogs from people who have.
In my honest opinion, it's almost certainly bullshit. If Loell really was paying her that much and if it really was just a matter of enough photos, I don't think Kylee would've left and reacted in the way that she did.
It amazes me just how many people jump to defend Loell in the comments on YouTube.
